This AM Data Service entry is a little different from many of my other postings, the focus is not on IT Technology, or repair, but rather on an aspect of the business cycle than many companies encounter. Marketing, and whether SEO is ideal for their brand and efforts.
I recently received a letter from a close friend that has been developing their own record label, that focuses on the Jazz Market. They have a website that has some great albums and some really innovative musicianship, the problem has been their inability to generate sales. It’s a well known problems and something a lot of businesses face. How do I SELL my product or services. I realize that this entry is a little more specialized, but I believe a lot of the concepts in my reply are pretty sound.
Here is the email (it has been redacted but you’ll get the idea):
Hope you and your family are well! As always, it’s been too long since we’ve seen you; hopefully, we can rectify that sometime soon!
I know you’re an Internet guru, and I have a dilemma — I’ve been using a company called (REMOVED) (I know, silly name…) for several purposes. They tweaked our website, and they’ve been doing SEO.
The SEO is done in 6-month increments, at $60 per month. We’ve done the 1st 6 months, and, honestly, I have no clue if it’s working. We get analytics, but our online sales have actually plummeted.
My questions:
–Is this a fair rate?
–Is SEO usually done in 6-month chunks?
–Is it true that we should continue this ad infinitum (as our guy suggests)? He basically said that, without him doing SEO updates, we’ll fall off all the Search Engines, etc.
Is there a better solution?
I’ve attached the most recent Analytics — Don’t know if this will help you, but there ’tis.
I’d appreciate your thoughts about all this. Obviously, we just need the best, most cost-effective method. And I just don’t know enough about any of this!
Best,
(REMOVED)
Dear (REMOVED),
Goof to hear from you, I can certainly do my best to answer your questions, and will most likely be answering some questions you haven’t asked (as I believe they are the source of your real problems)
The SEO is done in 6-month increments, at $60 per month. We’ve done the 1st 6 months, and, honestly, I have no clue if it’s working. We get analytics, but our online sales have actually plummeted.
This is actually a rather common practice. SEO is a LONG process and does require continued upkeep and maintenance. The idea behind it being that you can gather more traffic into your sales funnel by providing new content and relevant data to prospects, rather than a pay-per-click or even worse the billboard type advertising.
My questions:
–Is this a fair rate? It really depends on 2 things. Is it working? And what is he doing. I would prioritize it in that order too. If he is doing very little but the effect is actually turning out to be a lot, then I would call it a success. If he is doing a lot, but it is amounting to nothing… then… well, fail! $60 per months is not a lot for true SEO, Most places charge several hundred dollars a month, but budget pricing on something that doesn’t work for your Market Niche… it not a sound idea.
–Is SEO usually done in 6-month chunks? Let me start by saying that I have personally never had much luck with an SEO company providing actual results. Secretly I believe the entire industry to be a nod and a wink. People charge what they charge and no one ever spills the beans that it is fluff. Like robot insurance (to protect you from attacks by robots… or land sharks). But I think I may also be oversimplifying or at the very least projecting my bad experiences on all providers
In truth though, I have seen very effective SEO generate good relevant results. However that related more to the efforts by the webmaster than an outside agency (writing articles, staying connected to consumers, etc). Part of the reason for this is also that the company bringing in an SEO expert is also rarely aware of their marketing needs. What terms to target, what terms convert for their sales pitch.
Here is the pitch for SEO: You work to build strong relevant organic traffic that is catered to match your targets keyword niche.
The reality is that there aren’t too many keyword niches left. Most have all been plundered (meaning that there is already a strongly indexed presence in that space). Were this 2001 I’d say you could thrive in any keyword market… now… it is really hard to generate traffic from SEO, that will convert into sales.
Here is the reason. SEO is not a true marketing to improved sales funnel corollary. Having a great SEO strategy doesn’t mean sales. It means potentially increased visibility in search engines. People buy SEO products based on an anticipated outcome, but that is not what is actually being sold. Is it helpful yes. Does it have the longest potential for residual income (assuming the sales funnel works) yes. Is it predictable. Absolutely 100% not. Major search engines change the fundamental search ranking algorithms on wild and varied timetable (see, Jagger update). It can flip up to down and down to up and erase months of hard SEO work. Your strategy could be link building and now that is a punishment rather than a boon.
The reason I see little success with SEO a lot of times is that it is hard for the SEO company to understand the needs of the client. They will look at keywords (yours for example…also you need to change these)
record label, jazz bands, jazz musicians, jazz records, jazz cds, swinging jazz artists, recording artist, jazz artists, music label,
And make sure that you rank the highest for those terms. There is no sales foresight applied to the process. You want an outcome, they get paid for the efforts. So using the above keywords, you may actually be ranked #1 for all those keywords… but who is actually searching for any of those terms with the intention of BUYING SOMETHING, having a relevant search result does not mean people will click to get to your site. And going to the site does not mean people will buy products. So even if your search rankings are going up, it may contribute little at all to your website traffic and have little to no effect on your sales.
–Is it true that we should continue this ad infinitum (as our guy suggests)? He basically said that, without him doing SEO updates, we’ll fall off all the Search Engines, etc. Yes, but not entirely true. SEO is a content is king methodology. Adding new and fresh original content shows your site is actively building a presence and user experience. If it goes stagnant (meaning no one adds anything) it will drop in rankings (Simply because other sites will be continuing to add to their own SEO efforts. It is a lot like a foot race. . What are they doing for SEO? Link building, Blog? What is their strategy?
Is there a better solution? SEO isn’t going to do much until you know what keywords lead to sales conversions and are able to target those. With what you currently have, there is no buzz for people to be looking for the targeted terms. SEO works for huge companies because people are already looking for them or the consumables in their niche, Nike, Coke, Etc. They can corner the market on, sneakers and soda terms. But if you are advertising or promoting something that no one knows about, or rarely searches for, it wont matter how high you rank on the search engines, because it will be a very low volume search term. For example I could rank #1 for glinkinshpoinks. I could be #1 forever on it… but no one will ever find it, because they would need to know about that term before they look for it.
I’d appreciate your thoughts about all this. Obviously, we just need the best, most cost-effective method. And I just don’t know enough about any of this!
Ok I am going to shoot from the hip here since we are old friends, this is your business and something that you want to generate money with and I want to see it become successful. Also I would expect the same from you were we on opposite ends of this email so no punches pulled, here are my thoughts.
Using the website as a means to SELL records is not the most effective way to generate actual sales. Technology has outpaced the idea.
Now, let me clarify that. The way that consumers (regardless of whether they are Jazz fans or not) consume media and related infotainment has changed fundamentally and is increasingly changing each year. Music stores (mega stores), and music sections in mega stores (Wal-Mart) are shrinking, they are doing so at an alarming rate. This is almost exclusively due to the advent and spread of digital media. I know you have heard me ringing that bell ad nauseum, but there is a reason for it.
Right now impulse consumption of media takes all of 10 seconds. I can drive my car and download an album at the same time. I can think of a song and want it, and have it, in 5 button clicks. Record/CD stores are convenience killers. Only a handful of people continue to use them as their way to get music, but it will eventually be obsolete. “Inventory” as it is, is such a 90s idea. Who needs a bookstore? Who needs a record store? I can put the collected works of every author ever, in all of recorded history from every country, on a device that fits in a pocket. Convenience is the key. You can’t market your product in a place that people aren’t going to buy that kind of product anymore. It simply doesn’t work if it isn’t in front of the consumers that are going to buy the product it won’t do its job.
Online sales was what added convenience to the brick and mortar shopping experience and struck the first lethal blow to the “Music Store”. It revolutionized things making it easier to get things quickly and on your own time. Digital distribution has done the same thing to online shopping. If I can get it now, why would I want to wait? And if I can get something else now, why would I wait for that original thing? Yes, there are still consumers that will handle with care and enjoy the arrival of a CD or related product, but they are a thinning market. It would be catering your business-model to the diminishing and not expanding market. Like selling those old fashioned licorice candies. Sure there are some people that will eat them, but they are old, and there will be fewer of them every year (the people… and the candies).
So my thoughts, As they are, are that you should be using the website to develop your brand, and building brand recognition with it, content related to artists, buzz builders promotions, and using every possible highly traveled digital distribution source to actually SELL your products.
Make it easy
Make it convenient
MAKE IT FAST
Use familiar interfaces
Incentivize the process
Innovate
And focus on the core of your business – you aren’t a drop ship provider, you aren’t a sales portal… No, you are a record label. Make good music and put in in visible places. Use sales to capitalize expansion and run from there.
We have all had to put our notions about how things work in check, but if something isn’t working continuing down the same path is an exercise in futility. Believe me I know that more than anyone. The reason sales are low has nothing to do with the layout of the site, the SEO, content, etc. It doesn’t even have to do with the products. I know, I have impulsively purchased tons of (REMOVED) albums.
If you want actual results where you can test an A-B outcome, try marketing through ad-words, create identical campaigns and link one campaign to itunes and link the other to your site and see which generates the greatest net profits for you. You may make less with each itunes sales, but walk away with more, because it is zero overhead sales (no shipping, no packaging, etc). Also this marketing will allow you to identify the terms that are converting sales, which will in turn help you to fuel an SEO expansion. CPA and other controlled campaigns for marketing allow you to build a roadmap for success. if you simply press on without any of the data on what works, you could end up WAY off-course.
Hope that helps. Best of luck with it all!